Talk:History of Afghanistan

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I'm not an expert on Afghanistan, nor do I want to look through all the various pages on the history of Afghanistan to be sure that the info at http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/5380.htm has been incorporated into the article. But obviously there is someone around who doesn't mind working extensively on the history of Afghanistan, so just let me point out that the link above is in the public domain. So you can copy and paste at will, if need be. --KQ 04:08 Sep 12, 2002 (UTC)

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Are the Islamic State of Afghanistan and the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan the same thing? --Jiang 10:22, 8 Aug 2003 (UTC)

There never was an "Islamic Republic of Afghanistan." --Wik 11:57, Aug 8, 2003 (UTC)

Apparently, we have an entire article on the History of the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan. --Jiang 02:06, 9 Aug 2003 (UTC)

CIA aid to the Mujahideen

The CIA aid to the Islamic resistance during the Soviet intervention is well established and is documented in George Crile, Charlie Wilson's War: The Extraordinary Story of the Largest Covert Operation in History, Atlantic Monthly Press, 2002, hardcover, 550 pages, ISBN 0871138549 Afghanistan is a small country now but in the past it had a big empire called Durrani empire and Afghanistan is hard to invade Because of its geography

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Just noting this for possible future review.. The line "The puppet government of Afghanistan responded to attacks with heavy handed intervention from the army." is probably not entirely NPOV. At that time the government was only seeking Soviet help, and had not really been replaced with one fully controlled by the soviets.

this article makes it sound like the soviet's created the government there.....and "Many groups were formed in an attempt to reverse the dependence on the Soviet Union, some resorting to violent means and sabotage of the country's industry and infrastructure. The government responded with a heavy handed military intervention and arrested, exiled and executed many mujahideen 'holy Muslim warriors'"....the mujadhideen are the one's who attacked the trade center.. theyre religious extremists and terrorists and werent fighting for the people's will, they just want the whole world to live in the 7th century and believe in their universally renounced extremist interpretation of Islam. The "dependence on the soviet union"... thats a non-NPOV way of saying they were recieving voluntary economic aide to build basic infrastructure that was up till then lacking....IF the US did it its selfless idealism....if the USSR did it then its the encroaching tentacles of an evil empire...PSH!

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This history of Afghanistan article is incredibly biased to promote American imperialism's revisionist history narrative. This is an invariable failing of Wikipedia which has been overrun by U.S. intelligence agency (for example CIA or FBI) propagandists whose job it is to create a self-serving, pro-American perspective on world events, especially for countries where the USA is deeply involved in regime change or taking over that country. Afghanistan is an obvious choice for their 'editors' to go to work. Even the post immediately above mine is pointing this bias out:

'The "dependence on the soviet union"... thats a non-NPOV way of saying they were recieving voluntary economic aide to build basic infrastructure that was up till then lacking....IF the US did it its selfless idealism....if the USSR did it then its the encroaching tentacles of an evil empire...PSH!'

NEVER trust Wikipedia on political topics involving USA like this history of Afghanistan article. Notice how at the end there is nothing about the recent, literal 'in the middle of the night' unannounced to the Afghan government withdrawal of 95% of American troops from Afghanistan: you see, this inconvenient truth doesn't fit into the "spreading democracy" liberal interventionist propaganda narrative of the USA. You can rest assured any attempt to objectively, factually tell the history of the American invasion and occupation of Afghanistan will be quickly erased and edited to make the USA look like the benevolent savior of Afghanistan's struggling government.

217.30.78.42 (talk) 10:26, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

217.30.78.42 (talk), please keep your bias somwehwere else, not on wikipedia. The government of Afghanistan was literally dependent on Soviet troops, you clearly forgot about Operation Storm-333. Of course it doesn't include the 2021 Taliban offensive, this is about the History of Afghanistan not what's currently going on there. Also again how come this is your first contribution to Wikipedia, stop making sockpuppets.Kailanmapper (talk) 12:31, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

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I would just like to note in response to the reference above to the 9/11 attacks. No Afghans were involved in the attacks to my knowledge and none of the hijackers were from Afghanistan. While the Taliban were in control of the majority of Afghanistan at the time of 9/11, one cannot say the Taliban represented the will of the Afghan people at the time. The violent response to the Soviet invasion was from the entire country and included all ethnic groups. The Taliban represented only one ethnic group and not all of them at that. Dsw (talk) 00:33, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

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Just to add to this - the Soviet Intervention is a rather dubious title as it does not reflect exactly how Afghans might see this action - perhaps 'Soviet Military Action in Afghanistan' might be better or even 'Soviet Occupation' might also better reflect the reality.

Buddhism and Hinduism in Afghanistan

Something must be written about the presence of Buddhism and the Hindu Shahi rulers of Afghanistan.[2] Muwaffaq 2 July 2005 04:54 (UTC)

Theres no point. It will just get erased. Or taken down. Because this is wikipedia. And sometimes computer dictators run wikipedia 71.105.87.54 (talk) 11:27, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

US support to MAK

I want to point out here (as I already did in the discussion on Al-Qaeda) that this page is inconsistent with Al-Qaeda page on whether US supported MAK, or not. Although a minor issue, I believe that this should be resolved (and I do not know yet the most plausible statement here).

Citation bragging?

What's with the citations in the intro? Do you really need names and information about people who studied Afghanistan included directly in the beginning intro text (where space is limited)? It makes the article seem like it's about academics rather than about Afghanistan. falsedef 13:20, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

The first paragraph in the intro is perfect, explaining that major people and institutions are involved in putting together the history of Afghanistan.--NisarKand 11:20, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, but it's bloated and needs to be trimmed down considerably. Falsedef 21:19, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

I agree with Falsedef. The first paragraph should be an introduction of the content rather than a summary of "The Study of the History of Afghanistan". Alexkreuz 22:18, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

I agree with falsedef

The Mirwas Khan Hotaki section needs to be shortened.

That section really is too long. For a short period of Afghanistan's history, it is for some reason the longest section of this article. Also, the content on the Mirwais Khan Hotaki article, is the same as here. The content here should be a shorter version. So all this section needs to be summarized and shortened because its kind of silly having about 30 years of Afghanistan's history being longer than the rest. --Behnam 06:13, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

I disagree, the rest of the sections need to be extended and made longer so that the entire history be explained in much more details. This kind of detailed history of Afghanistan is not found anywhere else. By the way...check History of Pakistan or History of India and see how long they are.--NisarKand 11:17, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

I believe that the Hotaki section should be summarized in this article and most of the content of the Hotaki section in this article should be merged into the main Hotaki article. The main Hotaki article as of right now is a very incomplete summary and should be expanded. Alexkreuz 22:23, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Wrong informations about Afghanistan

The information about Afghanistan is not correct. First Kushal Khan Khattak was not from modern Afghanistan he was from modern West-Pakistan, from Multan (some say he was from Delhi). Another fault is that the name Afghanistan is used for all centuries of this country. The name Afghanistan is taken from the Britain word Afghanland which was describing the area of Kandahar and NorthWestFRontier. In Baburnama Afghanistan is known as the Peschawar-Valley or the western Ghat where the Afghans live and call themself Afghans. They living region took from Kafiristan to Lahor and Quetta.

Another Fault is that Ghorids, Kartids,Samanids and Ghaznawids were Afghans. They weren´t. They were Persians or turkish origine.

Please change the miss-informations. If you need help about the history just write me.

Thanks

Ps:the name of **Afghanistan** was in the later ancient and in the middle Khorassan (Country of the uprising sun) which is taken from the old languages of Parthian and the oldest iranic language of Awestan.

Plz study Baburnama or download it rom the web and search after the term Afghan. You can give your anser in the page where you can read the Baburnama and you will see Afghanistan was the Peshawar-Valley first, before the 19. century —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tajik-Professor (talk • contribs) 10:02, 25 April 2007 (UTC).

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• Please see Origins of the name Afghan. --Bejnar 21:24, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

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On 2 September 2007, Beh-nam said "please actually read the article. the history of afghanistan template starts in 1747, while most of this article is before and then it was History of Iran."

It is not relevant when the use of the word Afghanistan started, that is not how the history articles of current countries are done. Editors shorting the Template:History of Afghanistan do not do so in accordance with the way that country history articles are written in the Wikipedia. We have already covered this extensively, the History of Iran is not just about the time periods where Persia was called Iran; it is not just since the invasion of the Aryans. It is about the land area that now is covered by Persia. The History of India is not just since the British arrived, it is the history of the land area that now is covered by India. Similarly, the History of Afghanistan has little to do with the use of the name, it is the history of the land area that now is covered by Afghanistan. Why is that so hard to grasp? Why do you think that so many of the history articles start out with Pre-historic sections? That is before writing, and in most cases the people who gave the land its current English name had not yet invaded. Look at the History of Iran article, and accept that the same general principles apply here. --Bejnar 15:06, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

How would you feel if the hypothetical template "History of Greater Macedonia" replaced the template "History of Greater Iran". Under Alexander it was all Macedonian, and the Greek influence persists, in some things, to this day. Think about it. --Bejnar 19:23, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Place of the Hotaki in the history of Afghanistan

In an edit summary for Template:History of Afghanistan, Beh-nam said as he removed the link to the Hotaki dynasty, "yes it is consistent if you actually read the article, Hotakis did not rule this area". My question to him is: If not here, then in what area did the Hotaki rule? Where did they have their capital? --Bejnar 22:24, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Mirwais capital was first in Baluchistan before he captured kandahar. His descendants moved their capital from kandahar to modern day iran.--Anoshirawan 22:27, 14 October 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anoshirawan (talk • contribs)

Reasons for invasion

I find it odd that among the reasons for the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan is women's rights. Surely that can't reasonably be called a trigger for the invasion. 208.54.95.134 (talk) 01:44, 11 March 2008 (UTC) JLJ 03/10/08

Ref content is being repeatedly deleted

As there is a determined effort to delete large quantumss of referenced content from the article ,it is being put here

Kushans and Buddhism

During the Kushan rule, Afghanistan became the center of Buddhist culture and learning.

“ The Kushan empire reached its zenith in the reign of Kanishk the Great (AD 78-144) who was responsible for the preservation, development and propagation of the Buddhist religion and arts in the far east . ”

3rd to 9th century -Buddhist Turk and Hindu Shahis

The Shahi (Devanagari शाही) , Sahi , also called Shahiya dynasties ruled portions of the Kabul Valley (in eastern Afghanistan) and the old province of Gandhara (northern Pakistan and Kashmir) from the decline of the Kushan Empire in third century to the early ninth century .The Shahis continued to rule eastern Afghanistan until the late 9th century till the Ghaznavid invasions .

“ During the eighth and ninth centuries AD the eastern parts of modern Afghanistan were still in the hands of non-muslim rulers . The Muslims tended to regard them as Indians , although many of the local rulers were apparently of Hunnish or Turkic descent . Yet , the Muslims were right in so far as the non Muslim population of Eastern Afghanistan was , culturally , strongly linked to the Indian sub-continent . Most of them were either Buddhists or they worshipped Hindu deities . ”

Intothefire (talk) 10:57, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

But wasn't ancient Afghanistan closer to India than to Iran considering that its religious and cultural practices were largely derived from India. These Hindu and/or Buddhist traditions persisted until the year 870 when Afghanistan was fully conquered and subsequently Islamised, albeit the conquests started much earlier and some of the Islamisation may have already been underway. Cestabhi (talk) 18:10, 13 December 2019 (UTC)

Why is their little mention of a connection with Ancient India then here? ?

If you click the article that says History of Afghanistan their is mention of Afghanistan's connection with the Indus valley Civilization, which has to do with India. And in this article, and other articles, their is mention how Afghanistan has Aryan heritage. And has a history of Hinduism and Buddhism. All of which I agree with. But for some odd reason, their is little mention that Afghanistan has a ethnic and cultural connection with the history and culture of India? It doesn't make sense. I mean if it has all these ties that I have mentioned, doesn't that mean that Afghanistan has connections to the history and culture of India? I am not saying it was part of the country. Because in those days their were no boarders. But wasn't it apart of the local Aryan people? Before Islam werent many people Hindu and Buddhist then here water? So wouldn't it be easier to just say, that ancient Afghanistan has a connection to Ancient India? And before you say no, remmeber something, when you click history of Afghanitan it mention's the connection with the Indus Valley Civiliazation. So that is a connection with Ancient India isn't it? So would anyone object to me making some change's? 71.105.87.54 (talk) 03:39, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

I agree it has connection ancient india but it aslo possible to say it has connection with central asian civilisation,and even more with Irannian civilisation

so what i am trying to say is. to say that it very close connection with Ancient india is nPov but leaving out other ancient civilisation and regions especially is pov ref>[3]</ref> thanks

Suggest removing connection with ancient india line from the first line and put it in maybe couple of lines lower and add other cilisation (just a suggestion)thanks Mughalnz (talk) 21:17, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Why would you want to do that? Before Islam most of Afghanistan had a Hindu population. Even on wikipedia there is a page called Hinduism in Afghanistan that confrims this. Yet on this page you have little mention of it. And you want to move it down? ? 71.105.87.54 (talk) 11:24, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Because there is no connection to India, there were many traders and conquerers from Afghanistan that have been in India but there was never some kind of bridge or link connecting the two nations. Afghanistan has historically been more closer to Iran than any other nation. Akmal94 (talk) 01:24, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

other civilisation

hey can some one expand or improve the new sectionsMughalnz (talk) 21:38, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Copyright violation alert

Portions of the text as of 16 February 2010 are taken directly from the book Afghanistan revisited by Cary Gladstone. See, for example page 90 which matches the second paragraph of the lead. --Bejnar (talk) 19:03, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

According to the text, that section in Afghanistan revisited was written by Craig Baxter in 1995. --Bejnar (talk) 19:05, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Shouldnt this article start with the links to Ancient India and / or Hinduism then ? ?

Before the arrival of Islam, Afghanistan was culturally and historically linked with Hinduism and ancient India. Even on wikipedia there is a page called Hinduism in Afghanistan and it mentinos this. Yet here there is little to no mention of Afghanistan being ilnked and apart of Ancient India and / or Hinduism then ? ? 71.105.87.54 (talk) 11:28, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Yes, the article lacks a sub-section on Mauryaans conquest of parts of Afghanistan, and you can help improve the article by adding the text in the appropriate section along with the sources. But what you did in here is a vandalism. I had to revert it back. The History of Afghanistan does not start with Hinduism. The Bactria–Margiana Archaeological Complex existed several centuries before that Buddhism came to this land. Ariana (talk) 13:58, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

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Old sources

The Kingdom of Afghanistan: A Historical Sketch By G.P Tate

http://books.google.com/books?id=tGTd9KKwKVwC&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false

The Races of Afghanistan By Henry Walter Bellew

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Bactria, the History of a Forgotten Empire By Hugh George Rawlinson

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Rajmaan (talk) 05:07, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Why is there zero mention of Helmand and Arghandab Valley Authority?

The USA, modeling the TVA, set up in Afghanistan to bring infrastructure into the country in the 1950's. They literally created a "Little America in Afghanistan."

See Helmand and Arghandab Valley Authority. It's even the subject of a modern documentary about the history of Afghanistan called Bitter Lake (film), numerous articles, a book, and even a Wikipedia page, yet somehow not linked to this page.

http://www.amazon.com/Little-America-The-Within-Afghanistan/dp/0307947041

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/06/visit-afghanistans-little-america-and-see-the-folly-of-for-profit-war/257962/

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I Need clarification on a Afghani picture

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Mir Alam of Kohistan region in Afghanistan

What is this warrior’s name? Mir Alam or Meer Alum?

Which sub-division of Kohistan (disambiguation page), does this picture apply to?

"Ko-i-staun foot soldiery in summer costume. This lithograph is taken from plate 12 of 'Afghaunistan' by Lieutenant James Rattray. This Kohistani is Mir Alam, formerly one of a band of noted robbers on the road to Turkestan, north-west of Begram. Rattray wrote: "Coistaun has always been remarkable for the war-like character of its inhabitants, who average some forty thousand families famous for the efficiency and excellence of their Pyadas (foot-soldiery)…"

Any other thoughts or info would be useful... ThanksBeckenhamBear (talk) 18:59, 28 January 2017 (UTC)

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Large revert

I did a large revert here. While trying to read through some of the content the added POV was quite apparent. More watchful eyes are needed on this page.

Anupam, your content also got deleted as part of this, but I think it is contentious too. Why is the Kabul Shahi stuff being added to the Durrani section? I don't think there is scholarly consensus on the "Hindu Shahi" label, and I see disagreements about whether they were Turks or Hephthalites. Please join the discussion at Talk:Zabulistan. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 08:11, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

User:Kautilya, I've restored sourced information. I appreciate your invitation to participate in the discussion going on at Talk:Zabulistan. However, I currently am limited with respect to time. Perhaps User:My Lord and User:Highpeaks35 who are also commenting there can review the edits here. I hope this helps. With regards, Anupam^Talk 00:01, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

• The citations added by Anupam support the material he added about eastern Afghanistan being in the historic Greater Indian region, from what I can see. ML ⁹¹¹ 05:46, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

This is called confirmation bias. You search for "Afghanistan part of India" and sources that make the claim show up, whereas you are completely oblivious of all the other sources that entirely ignore the claim. The correct way to write an encyclopedia is to take a wide collection of high quality sources, and see what each one of them says about the issue. When you do that, you will find passages like that I quoted here, and you arrive at a more balanced view of things.

Jaswant Lal Mehta's book seems mildly (or perhaps seriously) Hindu revivalist to me, the way it talks about "Indo-Aryan civilisation". Satish Chandra's is a standard book, but it is still a high school/college text book, not a great place to find out about contentious issues. Moreover, to find out about the full story of Afghanistan, one should be looking at History of Afghanistan books, not History of India books. So, I maintain that these sources are not adequate. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 14:06, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

Name of Afghanistan from the Middle Ages to around 1750

The opening paragraph of the section 'Middle Ages (565–1504 CE)' reads : From the Middle Ages to around 1750 Afghanistan was known as Khorasan.

The link beside this sentence (citation 61, Encyclopedia Britannica), on the other hand, states:- Khorāsān, also spelled Khurasan, historical region and realm comprising a vast territory now lying in northeastern Iran, southern Turkmenistan, and northern Afghanistan.

This clearly means Afghanistan wasn't known as Khorasan during that time; only the northern parts of Afghanistan were part of an even larger historical region known as Khorasan. I think it's reckless to not specify this detail since people who are not estoric in the knowledge of the region may be misguided by it, just as I was. Cestabhi (talk) 17:30, 13 December 2019 (UTC)

Orphaned references in History of Afghanistan

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of History of Afghanistan's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "Iranicaarticle":

• From Arachosia: Schmitt, Rüdiger (August 10, 2011). "Arachosia". Encyclopædia Iranica. United States.{{cite encyclopedia}}: CS1 maint: location missing publisher (link)
• From Mohammed Nadir Shah: Schinasi, May (7 April 2008). "MOḤAMMAD NĀDER SHAH". Encyclopædia Iranica (Online ed.). United States: Columbia University.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 22:03, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

"History of Afghanistan(Khorasan)" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect History of Afghanistan(Khorasan). The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 August 1#History of Afghanistan(Khorasan) until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Soumya-8974 ^talk _contribs ^subpages 13:06, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

NATO presence, Emergency Loya Jirga's government

Currently the penultimate paragraph of section #6.5 "NATO presence and the Emergency Loya Jirga's government" ends "In 2014, Ashraf Ghani was elected to be the president of Afghanistan." and the first sentence of the next paragraph starts "In 2021". Although there are references to other articles below the section heading perhaps there should be some mention of events between 2014 and 2021. Mcljlm (talk) 23:52, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

killing = haram

killing is haram and it always was, how can a governemnt say that the giving of life is haram and killing therefore oposite ... who is so haram to insist on killing and mention that as a 'law' while ALL LIFE id GIVEN...

Bad citation

Sorry, I'm on mobile and idk how to block quote. "The majority of people in the cities including Kabul either welcomed or were ambivalent to these policies. However, the Marxist–Leninist and secular nature of the government as well as its heavy dependence on the Soviet Union made it unpopular with a majority of the Afghan population. Repressions plunged large parts of the country, especially the rural areas, into open revolt against the new Marxist–Leninist government. By spring 1979 unrests had reached 24 out of 28 Afghan provinces including major urban areas. Over half of the Afghan army would either desert or join the insurrection. Most of the government's new policies clashed directly with the traditional Afghan understanding of Islam, making religion one of the only forces capable of unifying the tribally and ethnically divided population against the unpopular new government, and ushering in the advent of Islamist participation in Afghan politics." Citation 131 for this leads to a page with absolutely none of this info, just a short paragraph and links to other articles. Those should be cited directly for each respective source, as referenced by the quoted paragraph, no?? 71.185.27.93 (talk) 22:12, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

Indian sources in medival section

Lal and Satish are not reliable sources. Both are experts on Indian history not Afghan history and wrongly claiming that "Afghanistan was always part of ancient India" reeks of nationalism. Also, their citations taken are from the book "History of India" which means they could be only considered experts on Indian history. Especially Lal's work shouldn't even be used here in the first place considering he's an outspoken supporter of the debunked and fringe AIT theory. I think both citations should be removed but i am open to discussing this with other editors and considering hearing their options. Akmal94 (talk) 06:52, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

They seem expert in South Asian history. Abhishek0831996 (talk) 09:40, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress

There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Military of Afghanistan which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 19:47, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

Split last section in Contemporary Era

The last section of the contemporary era has a title which is too long, and Afghanistan has substantially changed since the surrender of US forces to the Taliban. I propose splitting it into three sections:

• Interim government (2001-2004)
• Islamic Republic of Afghanistan (2004-2021)
• Taliban Rule (2021-present)

Stidmatt (talk) 19:50, 3 September 2024 (UTC)