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Discussion for Today

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This page is transcluded from Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025_January_19


January 19

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NEW NOMINATIONS

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Category:Unsolved murders in Utah

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) SMasonGarrison 13:45, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: We really don't need to diffuse cases by type or crime AND status of investigation SMasonGarrison 13:37, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Never mind on this one. I found the USA parent that definitely could use the diffusion. SMasonGarrison 13:45, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:Unsolved historical disappearances in Utah

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Nominator's rationale: Non-defining/vague SMasonGarrison 13:33, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Resolved missing person cases in Utah

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Nominator's rationale: this just isolates cases, making it harder to navigate SMasonGarrison 13:33, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Formerly missing people found dead

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Nominator's rationale: Recreation of deleted categories https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Categories_for_discussion/Archive_20#h-Category:Missing_people_found_deceased-20240201031600 SMasonGarrison 13:30, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Ballot measures

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Nominator's rationale: Ballot measure has been a redirect to referendum since 2021. Merge and keep as a redirect per WP:OVERLAPCAT. –Aidan721 (talk) 13:26, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Queens regnant of Polonnaruwa

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Nominator's rationale: There are only two entries in this category, and not likely to be any further, so I think it is small enough to justify merging. Векочел (talk) 12:52, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Queens regnant of Anuradhapura

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Nominator's rationale: There are only two entries in this category, and not likely to be any further, so I think it is small enough to justify merging. Векочел (talk) 12:52, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Vaporware video games

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Nominator's rationale: There is a variety of issues that I have with this category: First of all, someone has removed titles that have been released a couple months back like Team Fortress 2 or Duke Nukem Forever. Also, vaporware is only a slang term for software that is takes very long to make and is often simply left abandoned (this may cause confusion with the similar term abandonware). The status of individual games in this category also varies: some are currently in active development and have not confirmed to be cancelled, some are just simply officially cancelled, while others are unreleased unknowingly cancelled. This could actually make for a new Unreleased video games category; which would only include video games that are unreleased yet not known to be officially cancelled. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 04:17, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Split Keep this category (with stricter guidelines) and create a second category for former vaporware that has since been released.
ThanatosApprentice (talk) 05:25, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: No consensus on rename.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 11:16, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Music generated games

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Nominator's rationale: Raised by Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2025_January_10#Category:Video_games_with_custom_soundtrack_support due to its unclear title. The long description is mostly WP:OR, and defines the topic as video games that can read CD inputs. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 11:09, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Music-generated games are games in which the gameplay is generatively determined in a meaningful way by musical input. This is accomplished, in music-generated video games, by associating in-game elements such as landscape or enemy attack formations with elements from the musical input via waveform analysis algorithms.

Musical input typically consists of a standard CD in Red Book audio format. With musical input in this format, the game software will load into the console's RAM and allow the removal of the game disc such that any musical CD of the player's choosing may be inserted and accessed during the game. This allows for essentially limitless gameplay variability and is intended to enhance replay value.

Other music-generated video games do not allow the player to select his own input, but instead use pre-determined musical input generatively. Such games allow the designers to employ any musical format of their choosing thereby enabling maximal compression and thus maximal pre-determined song library. Generative portions of such games typically derive from music visualization algorithms.

Although music-generated games are typically classified as music games, there is no requirement that a music-generated game must fall under this genre or even that the player must hear the music serving to determine gameplay. Furthermore, since gameplay determination is required, games which allow nothing more than a custom soundtrack do not fit the definition of a music-generated game.

Virtual reality -> Extended reality

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Nominator's rationale: Those categories should cover the broader reality-virtuality continuum, so that's why i'm proposing a mass-rename of several virtual reality-related categories. Especially that the mixed reality market has started booming after Apple's $3499 magnum opus and Meta's first ever consumer-oriented mixed reality headset. However, the case with "Virtual reality pioneers -> Extended reality people" is that they are not exclusively pioneering those technologies but can have various different associations with them. Oh, and, also that there are barely any augmented or mixed reality-related categories. 67.209.128.52 (talk) 22:40, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:45, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Will notify wikiprojects listed by 67.xx IP.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 10:52, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose - as unnecessary. The industry more commonly uses virtual, not extended, and as a result, so should we. I don't love the use of a subjective term like "pioneers" though, I do think that one could stand to be changed, but that doesn't really seem to be what this discussion is about. Sergecross73 msg me 14:33, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Palestine

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Subcategory list
Nominator's rationale: And all sub-categories. Opposed speedy. The country article is now at Palestine as a result of this Requested Moved, the categories for the country should follow. Unfortunately during the years when the Palestine namespace was occupied by a disambiguation page, some category disambiguations were put in and this has led to what should be a straightforward move being procedurally objected to. The category names should match the main article for a country. Timrollpickering (talk) 10:34, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Copy of speedy discussion
This should probably go to full discussion. Per WP:C2D: it generally does not apply to proposals to remove a disambiguator from the category name, even when the main article is the primary topic of its name, i.e. it does not contain a disambiguator. –Aidan721 (talk) 02:51, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose far too many categories to discuss each on their own merits. World Heritage Sites in Palestine for example is too vague when considering the wider geographical region. Traumnovelle (talk) 03:10, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Not sure if I understand this objection, all of the listed cats include State of Palestine in their titles, for example Category:World Heritage Sites in the State of Palestine. Anything not in SoP/Palestine must be in another state.Selfstudier (talk) 13:24, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support rename all, logical thing to do. Selfstudier (talk) 13:25, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 10:51, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Deaths from medical malpractice

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Nominator's rationale: Non-defining/inaccurate in most cases. Most of these deaths are from poor medical care, e.g. James Garfield. But these aren't "malpractice" SMasonGarrison 06:14, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Category will be kept, but no consensus to purge the biographies.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 10:48, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Civil parishes in Telford and Wrekin

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Nominator's rationale: There is no need for a category at this level, and it breaks with, and confuses, the long-established hierarchy of categories. English civil parishes are categorised by a category for their district or unitary authority (ie the smallest larger unit which includes them), and a category "Civil parishes in [county]" (by ceremonial county, not by unitary authority). There is an established hierarchy at Category:Civil parishes in England by county. Note that Category:Civil parishes in Shropshire has a note, present for many years, showing its scope as "Civil parishes in the county of Shropshire, including the borough of Telford and Wrekin." (Shropshire is a somewhat confusing area to consider, as the ceremonial county and the smaller unitary authority area share the same name.)
Note that when this category was added to a group of parishes, Category:Telford and Wrekin was removed, so this will need to be replaced in any cleanup if this category is deleted. PamD 10:45, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The reason for that creation was to declutter the already over cluttered Telford and Wrekin category. It was to add the civil parishes to a seperate sub category to allow people interested in parishes or local history to see the parishes of Telford and Wrekin. The issue with the Shropshire one is that it covers the whole county but also there are two unitary areas which cover different sizes in Shropshire. With telford have just shy of 30 civil parishes as Telford itself is unparished. It allows for the other cps to be given a platform of their own in a category shy of Telford and Wrekin category. As @Crouch, Swale has previously told me that category is not needed. So it allows the category to be found in the Telford and Wrekin category but without directing or cluttering the mainspace itself. Neatly if you will. Since none of these cps answer to Shropshire Council but T&W Council. DragonofBatley (talk) 12:15, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Children of Category:1480s in Spain

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Nominator's rationale: Sparsely populated because it's so far in the past. -- Beland (talk) 10:31, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge After Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2025_January_7#Category:1488_establishments_in_Spain, four of the five categories will be empty. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 10:39, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Japanese non-binary professional wrestlers

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Nominator's rationale: Excessively narrow intersection, especially for just one article. Upmerge sole entry to non-binary professional wrestlers (already present in 21st-century Japanese professional wrestlers so no need there). Not nominating American non-binary professional wrestlers just now but noting that it may be worth doing the same with; if anyone else supports then I'll throw a nom up for it as well. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 10:05, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. I'd take the AMerican ones under the same criterion — we previously merged a host of ethnicity+nationality actors categories on similar WP:NARROWCAT/WP:OCEGRS grounds. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 11:32, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Template:US-aviation-accident-stub

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Nominator's rationale: This template seems to be entirely redundant and unnecessary since its scope is already covered in the much larger Template:Aviation-accident-stub and, out of the current 157 stubs listed at Category:Aviation accident stubs, less than ten involve US aviation accidents/incidents. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 09:59, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Works about economics

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Nominator's rationale: rename, economics is not accurate here because economics is the study of economic topics. Apart from subCategory:Economics books, this category is mainly about economic topics rather than about economics. If there appears to be support for this proposal I will add the subcategories too (but not Category:Economics books). Marcocapelle (talk) 07:30, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose as distinction without a difference. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 11:30, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

1980s/1990s wildfires in North America

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Nominator's rationale: Redundant category layer with just one sub-category. –Aidan721 (talk) 05:50, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Wildfires in Canada by year

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Nominator's rationale: This content is better surfaced on the decade-level for Canada. Merge per WP:NARROW/WP:OCYEAR. Several of these articles are about wildfires that spread throughout Canada and the United States. –Aidan721 (talk) 05:20, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Expatriates from Austria-Hungary in the Kingdom of Serbia

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Nominator's rationale: Dual upmerge for now. There is only one person in this category of two former countries. SMasonGarrison 01:57, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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